The scientific truth of real magic (and why it has been hidden)

This week’s show is with Dean Radin PhD, who is Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Science (IONS), Distinguished Professor of Integral and Transpersonal Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS), and a science adviser for several start-up companies. His original career track as a concert violinist shifted into science after earning a BSEE degree in electrical engineering (magna cum laude, with honours in physics) from the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and then a Masters in electrical engineering and PhD in psychology from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. For a decade he worked on advanced R&D at AT&T Bell Laboratories and GTE Laboratories. For over three decades he has been engaged in research on the nature and capacities of consciousness. Before joining the research staff at IONS in 2001, he held appointments at Princeton University, University of Edinburgh, and SRI International, where he worked on a classified program of psychic espionage, now commonly known as StarGate.

He is author or co-author of over 300 scientific, technical, and popular articles, four dozen book chapters, two technical books, and four popular books including the Scientific and Medical Network’s 1997 book award, The Conscious Universe (HarperOne, 1997), Entangled Minds (Simon & Schuster, 2006), the 2014 Silver Nautilus Book Award, Supernormal (Random House, 2013), and Real Magic (Penguin Random House, 2018). Entangled Minds, Supernormal and Real Magic are available as paperback, e-books, and audio books. These books have been translated into Spanish, French, German, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Romanian, Latvian, Turkish, Czech, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Arabic.

​His 100+ academic articles appear in peer-reviewed scientific journals ranging from Foundations of Physics and Physics Essays to Frontiers in Human Neuroscience, Psychological Bulletin, and Psychology of Consciousness. He was featured in a New York Times Magazine feature article; and he has appeared on dozens of television programs around the world. His 500+ interviews and talks have included presentations at Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Columbia, Cambridge (England), Edinburgh (Scotland), The Sorbonne (Paris), University of Padova (Italy), and University of Allahabad (India) . His invited talks for industries have included MerckGoogle, Johnson & Johnson, and Rabobank, and his government talks have included the US Navy and US Army, the Naval Postgraduate School, DARPA, the Indian Council of Philosophical Research (India), the International Center for Leadership and Governance (Malaysia), and the Australian Davos Connection  (Australia).  In 2017 he was named one of the 100 most inspiring people in the world by the German magazine, OOOM, and as of 2018 his filmography on IMDB lists 18 documentaries he’s appeared in.

Note: Dean is not a therapist, nor a psychic or a paranormal investigator. He is a scientist who studies psychic phenomena. If you are disturbed by psychic experiences, he recommends that you contact a psychologist or psychiatrist knowledgeable about these experiences. Another resource is the Spiritual Emergence Network.

​In this show we explored Dean’s incredible life’s work on the topic of real magic! We explored the reasons magic has been so put into shadow in our culture, his scientific studies on this topic and lastly why magic is anything but a fantastical, dreamy, made-up topic – it’s actually the most important conversation we could be having as a species right now. This is such a treasure trove of a show – I’m delighted to be able to share it with you.

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What you’ll learn from this episode:

  • Science tells us magic isn’t real, religion tells us it’s real but prohibited – it’s no wonder our culture has shoved so deeply into shadow

  • Extraordinary phenomena requires extraordinary evidence: and as it happens with magic the evidence is there and it is in fact, extraordinary

  • Magic is the most important conversation we could be in as a culture right now – who we are and what we’re made of – from there we can become wiser, we can change the course of our species and the impact we’re having

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Lian & Jonathan

 
 
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